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was the decision made by the Pentagon to

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to uh begin publicly ridiculing and

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undermining uh The credibility of of

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witnesses that was like the early 50s

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right yeah yeah back Project Blue Book

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days yep yeah so it was there they went

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from the they went from a stance of all

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right let's investigate this stuff too

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let's make it seem crazy and make

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everyone who talks about it seem crazy

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and condition the public to that and so

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um

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so I'm saying like going back from the

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earliest you know I mean television

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radio uh that was sort of the atmosphere

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was created that all of the people who

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believed in UFOs were you know the

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lunatics who hung out in the desert uh

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waiting for them to come down for you

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know to save us

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um and uh

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and so they uh so comedy uh especially

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in those days there was very a strong uh

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tendency towards what I would used to

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call public domain comedy uh you know

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which is like you know every every every

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comedy show would do a scene where I a

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drunk guy sees something crazy and then

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takes the flask out of his pocket and

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goes oh boy

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you know so everyone everyone would do

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the same joke right in those days I

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think we've we've evolved a little bit

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from that we've made comedy a little

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harder now

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um but at that time yeah so you'd go for

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the low hanging fruit the easy laugh so

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if there was a story about UFOs in the

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news

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everyone in comedy would tell their

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jokes you know whether it was Bob Hope

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or later whether it was Johnny Carson uh

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or later Saturday Night Live

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um and it just all went on that that

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smart intelligent people immediately

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mocked the story immediately mocked any

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Witnesses derided them uh disparaged and

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uh and and disposed of them

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um pretty quickly so comedians became

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um

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an unwitting Ally I Think to the

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government in creating uh the narrative

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that uh all UFO uh encounters are the

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the product of deranged Minds

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and and and and forwarding The

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Stereotype of the uh yeah you know of

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the of the the hick and his camper in

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the middle of the woods you know uh with

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his bottle of moonshine seeing a UFO you

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know yeah and and I gotta say to to uh

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to a certain extent I mean that that

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social conditioning is one of the things

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that has amazed me most since I guess

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even since

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particularly since the New York Times

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article is the

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profound effect that the social

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conditioning has had on on the

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population that even now when you've got

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the Pentagon coming out and saying yes

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they're real you know no we don't know

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what they are

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um the response to the public is still

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largely right

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that's that's crazy I don't even want to

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talk about that crazy you know and

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just going on with their day well

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whatever whatever freak you know and and

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I know and this is from particularly

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from intelligent people who actually are

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as I said I have friends who who I know

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read the New York Times from cover to

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cover

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uh but when I asked him about about the

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you know these uh UFO Revelations from

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The New York Times and the the the three

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famous videos that came out along with

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it

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people I know read the New York Times

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program what are you talking about when

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was this this was in the times I didn't

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see that

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and he was it's the social conditioning

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that literally not only did they not

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read the articles

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they didn't register that they had seen

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the articles

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because they're so conditioned to just

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block out anything to do with UFOs

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and that even if it's on the front page

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yes even if it's on the front page and

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you know there's no way they missed it

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but they did

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smart people that I know I could talk to

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them about everything else that was in

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that issue of the New York Times

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you know and uh people the people that

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you know friends of mine that are

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comedians that are extremely

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um tied into the culture

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just zero awareness of the fact that

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that the story had broken and the

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Pentagon had confirmed it

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and uh that startled me and I kept

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thinking wow it really is this a larger

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danger to be aware of which is how

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susceptible we are to having our uh

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I guess our our field of view narrowed